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30/7/99 People in Chester are asked weekly to voice their objections to the CDTS. Have we not already
5/8/99 I'm not sure which world Mr
Gilespie lives in when he calls himself a realist but I don't think
it is this one. I would like to answer some of his points he made in defence
5/8/99 His desire to crow ahout the progress
of CDTS has blinded John Gillespie to all the facts which do not support his
views. To address just a few:
5/8/99 I would like to respond to the points
made by a Mr John Gilespie of Mickle Trafford about the Chester Deeside Transport
5/8/99 I would like to address County Cllr
Peter Byrne's letter in Points
of View, 22nd July. It is rather inaccurate and misleading.
5/8/99 So John Gilespie signs himself a
"realist and CPRE sympathiser" in last week's Standard. Does his realism take
into account the funds allocated to the scheme will in no way cover the costs
involved in building the CDTS busway, bearing in mind the need to raise the
level of the existing route in some areas, the rebuilding of bridges to accommodate
the buses, etc? The costs will be astronomical. and it is no good going cap
in hand to the government. I The Chester residents, most of whom will not find
the route of any value, will have to bear the increasing costs over many years.
5/8/99 We know we have a devastatingly
strong case against the planned CDTS busway scheme. The largest majority of
those who have heen given the chance to learn the true facts don't want it and
have shown just that. Now you too can see those who are trying to foist it upon
us are attempting to gag us yet again, it would appear.
12/8/99 We never fail to enjoy reading
the Standard, it is an excellent paper and is read from cover to cover by everyone
we speak to. We collect our friend's old copies and post them to all parts of
the globe. Of course the ongoing saga of the CDTS busway is the hottest item,
we get e-mails from everywhere about that.
12/8/99 Councillor Peter Byrne has made
a strong attack on CPRE with accusations of misrepresentation of the facts about
the Chester Deeside Transport System (CDTS) linked to development opporunities.
12/8/99 Letter to the Secretary ot State
for the Government, Transport and the Regions, re: the proposed Chester busway
12/8/99 Council officials are pushing
ahead with th CDTS busway, so it could at a future date be converted into a
road to carry car traffic, according to the national magazine Urban Transit.
12/8/99 No, Mr Byrne. I am anything but
reassured about the CDTS. The arrogance of councillors is frightening. In 1995
the scheme would cost £15 million now it is £40m. Heaven only knows the final
cost- but it could reach that high.
19/8/99 Concerning Cllr Byrne's latest and, as usual, innacurate list of assertions about the CDTS scheme, I would
like to take issue in particular with his statement that the busway will reduce
car journeys in the city, thus protecting the health of those people living
and working there.
19/8/99 I fully expect to see "only joking" (his words uttered after he made the statement he would pay compensation out
of his own pocket for any house that lost value because of the planned two-lane
concrete busway) at the end of the points of view letter by Cllr Byrne last
19/8/99 With regard to half
truths. Why would Tesco buy this Mannings Lane site if it had not been
given the nod and a wink that the current planning policy would change as soon
as the furore had died down and the council had got its way with the busway?
19/8/99 Regarding the proposed concrete
Busway on the old Mickle Trafford Line, the propaganda being pushed out by the
Chester Council and Cheshire county Council is a disgrace. Proposals put forward
by many other European cities and towns more than 25 years ago looked for a
substantial reduction in car usage in conurbations. In many cases the target
of 20 per cent reduction has been well exceeded. In one German city it was reported
to have reached a 50 per cent reduction, enhancing the life style of citizens,
not destroying it.
26/8/99 Are the local council aware of
what is going on in the real world? Why is it that local residents who want
a democratic right with freedom of speech are brow beaten by the local and county
councils, who will not hear what concerns we all have in different parts of
this project? The local councillors have shown their true colours since being
elected to their various wards in their area.
26/8/99 What a strange place Chester is!
We have the South Cheshire Authority launching a countywide environmental competition
for their health care premises. Great news. I would have thought all authorities
should be doing that these days.
26/8/99 I recently attended a council meeting
associated with the vote on the CDTS proposals. Prior to the meeting the representative
of the Anti-CDTS group was given the chance to address the council members.
I thought he presented a sound and logical argument although only given a short
I would say to you, and the Mickle Trafford councillors who are in support of it, would you like part of your garden taken and people looking into your bedroom as the buses pass because of a raised track?
If is is so good a scheme why don't you campaign for it to be extended to Mickle Trafford? If you do I'm sure you will find yourself in the stocks in Station Lane with people throwing "Flora" margarine at you.
Ted Whitehouse, 76 Sefton Road Hoole, Chester
26/8/99 The CDTS opponents have no need
or desire to mislead people. We just want to make sure electors hear both sides
of the story and think about some of the arguments. Here are some examples:
26/8/99 So Cllr Boughton, as Conservative
highways spokesman, accuses anti CDTS supporters of spreading misinformation.
I would like initially to draw attention to one particular point raised, although
I'm sure many people noticed themselves. Assuming it isn't a misprint, Cllr
Boughton states that anti-CDTS leaders make much of the alleged small reduction
in traffic if stage I is completed. I'm not sure I understand what point he
is making. Is he saying there will be a large reduction in traffic or is he
saying that the 3% reduction usually quoted is a figure invented by the anti's?
26/8/99 I can confidently predict the following:
2/9/99 Thank you for printing my letter about the Chester Deeside Transport System in your edition of 5th August, 1999.
2/9/99 In response to the letter from Ted Whiteside of Hoole, I wish to put the record straight. There is only
one city councillor for the ward of Mickle Trafford who happens to be me. And
if, as Mr Whitehouse stated, he was at the council meeting when CDTS was discussed
and voted on, he would have been aware that I voted against CDTS. I was opposed
to it then and I am opposed to it now.
3/9/99 dear secetery of state for transport
3/9/99 i have found an artical in tramways
a urban transit september 1999 about the transit system writen by carlton
roberts-james project manager cheshire county council.
9/9/99 In answer to Cllr Byrne's point
of view of the 26th August 1999.
9/9/99 When a national transport expert
like Professor Lewis Lesley backs the call for CDTS to be built as a tramway,
the council should think again about pushing on with the busway option.
9/9/99 I look forward to receiving your
excellent paper every Thursday, and to reading your 'Points of View', especially
those concerning the CDTS Chester and Deeside Transport System. What a grand
title! But something puzzles me. Where does "Deeside'' come into this?
9/9/99 I am not surprised Cllr Byrne can't
understand why people write under other names. Arrogant peope never can understand.
Some people do not shout, don't write letters, would not normally dream of writing
to the paper and certainly not emblazon their names in the press if they can
help it. I can understand and don't blame them, however frightened they may
be about the consequences of the planned CDTS if they have been on the receiving
end of the arrogance of some councillors. Or if they saw the way the councillors
who were brave enough to represent their ward on this issue (yes, really, they
represented their ward) but were treated disgracefully at the full council meeting
on the CDTS. Some people are not used to that kind of thing, if it was their
first experience of a council meeting, it would have sent them reeling.
10/9/99 Council officials are pushing
ahead with the CDTS busway so it could at a future date be converted into a
road to carry car traffic, according to the national magazine Urban Transit.
10/9/99 Copy of a letter sent to John
Prescott, Secretary of State for the Environment, Transport and the Regions.
10/9/99 Cllr Peter Byrne has made a strong
attack on the Council for the Protection of Rural England (CPRE), with accusations
of misrepresentation of the facts about the Chester-Deeside Transport System
(CDTS) linked to development opportunities.
16/9/99 Two transport items caught my eye
in last week's news. With typical effrontery Cllr Lloyd-Griffiths claimed that
he has always been in favour of a Public Inquiry about the CDTS. Why then did
it fall to me to move the amendment at the county council calling on the Secretary
of State to hold such an inquiry and for the council to enter into more consultation
with local residents about the details of the scheme? I can assure you the original
recommendations to the county council did not include these proposals.
23/9/99 If ever proof was needed that the
council is having second thoughts on whether the CDTS will be a success was
highlighted by the Evening Leader, 13th September 1999. It reported on a meeting
to discuss proposals to enforce a series of stringent measures to reduce the
amount of traffic using Hoole Road and encourage diversions to other roads into
23/9/99 The Council's policy of destroying
the historic City of Chester continues. The Old Electric Light Building
is once again in danger of being demolished against the overwhelming wishes
of the Iocal people. The usual excuses am being trumpeted- the building cannot
be usefully occupied and the sewer would need extensive work carrying out. Both
have been proved to be false. A new planning application will have to be put
in by the developer to build houses upon the site. Chester does need new houses,
cheap and affordable for local people, not the luxury housing that the council
has encouraged. If a little extra money was spent then the Electric Light Building
could be utilised, but the council nor the developer are interested in the preservation
and enhancement of the city. Greed rules.
Reply to above: 7.10.99 I am pleased to reassure your correspondent 'Puzzled Gran' , along with other readers, that the archaeology has not been forgotten at the proposed park and ride site.
28.10.99 Having seen Cllr Peter Byrne's communiqué in the press 15.10 I feel it is important to put the record straight. Firstly Cllr Byrne raised the issue of people conducting local affairs through the local press, myself, a members of my organisation and many others have written constantly to the local council for information on various local issues. The council have yet to reply, some -people have written 3 or 4 letters on the same issue and made numerous telephone calls. Therefore the local electorate are left with very little option but to write to the local press.
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